Yellow Knight - Thoughts On Eating A "Deadly" Mushroom
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He has the best, most balanced presentations I've ever come across. Love them!
Portuguese fellow here. I just published a video on my youtube channel picking Tricholoma equestre in my hometown's pine forest. What I can tell you is that the Tricholoma equestre is our national mushroom. He never seized to be picked, despite those initially worrying studies, and "arroz de míscaros" (yellow knight rice) is a big dish in portuguese restaurants in november and december. My family has been picking it since forever, and it's the only mushroom I know as of yet. I'm getting more and more into mushrooms, and more and more interested in getting to know other species as well, but at the moment all I pick is Tricholoma equestre. And during this time of the year we probably eat Tricholoma equestre every two weeks minimum, every meal around 800 grams to 1kg divided by four people.
As far as I can remeber, no one in Portugal has gone to the hospital because of this mushroom, so do not worry about eating it. It's so delicious!
Great video! Cheers!
He seems to love what he does and it pleases me.
Hi, Adam. Could you possibly do a video on Wild Licorice and its varieties? The reason I ask is because your in depth explanations and research are excellent. Keep up the great work and thanks for the education.
This is exactly the video I wanted in September when I found some of these mushrooms for the first time. However, it's all good because it made me do all the same research and read about the reports from Europe, which brought me to the same conclusion: that these mushrooms are safe to consume in moderate quantities. I have a friend from Germany, and I asked him about why people would eat such massive quantities of these mushrooms. He said that the tradition of "feasting" on whatever is seasonally available is ingrained in European culture, and that mushroom foraging is practically a religion in some areas (esp. Poland and eastern Europe). It's easy to imagine whole families - or entire villages - heading out into the forest when these mushrooms are fruiting, coming back with laden baskets, and having a great mushroom festival lasting for days. For the record, I ate one mushroom, waited two days, and then ate the rest (about half a dozen). They were very good, and I'm not dead!
It's true, it's nuts to see how many families and hipsters and punks are all out foraging for mushrooms here. Loads more than in the US, but we have many healthy forests in Germany and great bioremediation programs for formerly polluted forests too.
@@jesipohl6717Most of them are every day normal guys. Only some hipsters.
What a wonderful and excellent Mycologist ! We need more people like this in the world.
Thanks, Adam. Well documented & explained, and beyond that, also beautifully filmed and edited. There’s an understated brilliance to your work that I greatly admire.
My rule of thumb when it comes to mushroom safety, is if people are undecided whether a species is safe or not, I generally stay away from it all-together. Some people may not be effected by consuming a potentially poisonous mushroom, while others may have severe reactions to it. I stick to the species I know are mostly harmless like Oyster Mushrooms - which are my favorite and easily found, so it's not an issue for me. And I want to be safe as I'm still learning.
Poisonous? Are you kidding me? I live in Poland and it's an extremally common mushroom this part of the year. One of my family's favourite because it has a really good, unique taste, rarely gets eaten by bugs, and is very fun to look for because it hides under the forest floor. We eat hundreds of them every year, we had a sauce made of them just yesterday...
Also, it has a grey/dark relative and they seem to grow near each other.
Dokładnie :)
My grandparents who came from Poland taught me to find these when I was a child (I am currently 73 years old) and I have eaten many many of them as well as a coulpe of others they taught me to gather. If I am correct, these yellow nights were called prosnianki, and there were 2 varieties, the yellow as shown here and the grey topped ones, called shive (grey) prosnianki. There was (is) a look alike version which had white gills and stalk, and I was told not to take them, only the ones with yellow stalks and gills, The look alikes grew in with the yellow ones, and after some experience, you can recognize the difference because the good yellow ones had a brighter yellow cap than the look alikes whose cap was a brownish yellow in the center. Also, the good ones had a thinner stalk than the ones in the video and the stalk was also definitely yellow, as opposed to white in the video. The others I learned was pempki, brown slimy topped cap with a sponge-like underside to the cap that also grew under pine trees and also osikowe which grew near hradwoods, mostly in old unused fields. Am I correct according to your experiences? Boy this brings back memories!
@@walterwenger931 I also learned to pick these mushrooms (yellow Prośnianki) when I was a kid, I am 63 now. My grandparents taught my mother and my siblings to pick these, the grey (szara) Prośnianki, the yellow ones, and I have also found ones that were grey and with slight yellow coloring. I live in New England and have always found them here, usually under red pine trees. The yellow typically were in the green moss. Unfortunately all the areas I used to pick are now covered with houses. In addition the the insect that has infected all of the red pines here has destroyed many habitats. I still am trying to find new places, but its getting harder and harder. Nice to know other people have learned this skill and practiced it.
Please, Adam, shed some light on grey knight (tricholoma myomyces or tricholoma terreum) which has also grown so controversial these years. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@@feitang4746 I am not a professional mycologist, I can only speak from personal experience. My grandparents took me mushroom hunting as a child and into my teens and 20's. They were from Poland, initially; I live and lived in central New York. Normally, we picked and enjoyed (ate) the yellow prosnianki, but once we found a large number of shive (grey) prosnianki and my grandparents instructed me that they grew exactly as the yellow variety, only the cap was gray rather than yellow. They were under pine (white and red pines) and we waited for the first frost for them to appear. We went into the woods a day or two after a rain to find them, growing under the pine needles on the forest floor, in pines that were not yet mature, but getting there. The important things to notice is that the stalk, the gills and the cap tops are all bright yellow; the ones with yellow caps but white gills and stalks were not to be harvested, as they were allegedly poisonous. (I never tested this to be true) In the photos of the video, the stalks are much thicker than I remenber. The gray ones were identical except the cap top was medium gray, but the gills under the cap and the stalks were all the yellow, just like the yellow variety. I only remember finding them once, but in great quantity. Another way to locate the mushrooms in the forest is to look for lumps in the needles on the ground that didn't appear to be there as expected -- you then uncover the "lump" to find a bunch of the mushrooms underneath the pine needles. I hope this helps. It is my experiences from over 50 years ago or so. Good luck.
I always eat it when I find it, but I only pick and eat small amounts, about (1 mushroom in a week)
I began to eat less since the controversy began. Before that I picked that mushroom like I pick Porcini. And I had never had problems with it.
There are regions in Europe that people have tradition to pick and eat it, and many people eat a lot.
But I guess caution is the best option. Nicely explained. 👍
I am in europe too, I wonder if it could be related to radioactive isotope accumulation like with bolete's in south eastern europe and some other places. I take the red skin off my bolete's just to be safe in my zone if I eat them more than once a week.
@@jesipohl6717 Excellent friggin point, my friend. Very good. Yes, perhaps because we know that fungi and bacteria absorb radioactive stuff. Wowee. Very smart man, Jared.
1 mushroom a week haha sad dish i ate and eat kind of a lot of them
Adam, your channel is second to none. 👍
Great video! Love the history and investigation. Keep it up!
It takes critical thinking, a skill not taught very often any more, that keeps tragedy at bay. Thank you for another wonderful video. I respect all fungi for their powerful medicines. Like all medicine (and I believe that food is medicine), it must be respected. The same questions I had while watching the video and listening to the poison report were the same questions raised by the food researchers. Goes to show you how dangerous bad science is.
Yes and I'm thinking...they must be particularly good if their reputation has been besmirched so badly 😏
Taking responsibility for what one eats with informed knowledge.. perfect advice… perfect video.. Thank You!
"There are known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns." There are risks we must take in life and risks we don't have to take. I once asked my own mycology professor in college whether he foraged for mushrooms. His response was a very emphatic "No". There is a great difference between acute toxicity such as GI irritation or rhabdomyolysis and delayed toxicity such as the possible increase in liver cancer later in life. Long-term longitudinal data don't exist even for most known environmental pollutants let along sophisticated natural substances evolved over millions of years in competitive struggles.
Adam what's up ! Thanks for the knowledge
Love your stuff Adam! I'll be up in Ohio and Penn for Thanksgiving and Christmas, going to be doing some foraging up there! Ever thought about doing a video on what to do in case of accidentally ingesting a toxic mushroom that was mistakenly identified?
Thank you for the video!
There is another mushroom with rather controversial toxicity status: Paxillus involutus. Many people consider it edible, but other, including mycologists, say it's deadly toxic.
Does it grow where you live? Can you make a video about it?
Sorry for my English, not my native language.
That's perfect enough English to not have to apologize
English is my native language and you spoke very well my friend👍
@@pennyfarthing7991 Same with gyromitra esculenta. The neurotoxin builds over time. It doesn't stop people from eating it (using the same boiling/discarding the first water method). Still... so many good mushrooms exist, why risk it?
@@johnweishaar5639 It sure is! It is better than what a lot of native English speakers can manage.
Your English is fine(perfect even). I never would have noticed that you were not a native speaker.
Great music choices and... a yellow flannel for the yellow knight ~ yeahhh nice touch Adam 👌
Hi Adam, I love your videos!!! The best thing happened to me in 2020 is finding your channel:) I have a question for you, Is TRICHOLOMA TERREUM edible? Could you please talk about it in your next video? Thank you in advance.
I have the same question.
Considered edible where I'm from at least (Norway).
love your videos, great work.... Greetings from Denmark
I’ve missed you Adam!! Thankyou
Always love these videos. Extremely interesting and informative and clean cut. 👌
Great informative video. I love your statement at the end for people to critically think about everything they put in their bodies including foods from the grocery store 😃🍄🌭🍩
Granny horse training ,
I have come to the conclusion, that the less I know about the foods I eat, the better, and let the chips fall where they may.
great thorough and Scientific info on the Yellow Knight and on wild edibles in general Adam your a great instructor 👍👍👍
Thanks Adam! Always rational and informed talk on your channel!
I was taught to pick this shroom along with a blueish-grey trich, when I was a child 60 yrs ago, by my Gram and mother. (Polish) It is delicious and my fav of all wild, but so hard to find sometimes. I was taught to peel the caps, par boil with a little onion, then saute. The best! I'm surprised you found it so soon in the fall though. Going out today!! TX for all your shared knowledge Adam.
Donna MARIE ,
I only eat supermarket mushrooms, but I always peel the caps as well. I think that it makes them less slimy and helps them absorb flavor.
i am polish (born in usa, my parents born there). my father and i pick these every year. these were popping up in new jersey about a month ago. theyre in full bloom right now. we JUST had boletes start popping up, really weird year for mushrooms
One of the best channels on RUclips
I just walked away from a lot of these the other day because of the confusion, thanks Adam
Great information. Have seen these in southern Ontario, Canada. Can you comment on the elm oyster mushroom sometime please? They are found on elm trees.
All things in moderation; a rule to live by in all cases, not just mushrooms. :)
If mushrooms were crocodiles, you'd be Steve Irwin
Thanks for the video!
Thanks Adam for another very informational video! I have yet to come across this species, but I will keep my eyes out for this one from now on.
Another great video Adam.
Great info, Adam! Thanks for sharing.
This mushroom seams to follow the same guidelines as most other mushrooms. My neighbor, who taught me to hunt morels, can't eat them anymore. He over indulged in them about 8 years ago and got violently sick. Now he can't even eat a pinch without getting sick. I think the moral of the story here is, like any other wild eatable, consume in moderation which is a big problem for many people.
I think you mean the morel of the story.
@@stefflcus LOL
Once again, thank you Adam for another amazing and informative video. ❤❤
The world needs to hear what Adam says starting at 11:20
Wonderful Adam - I enjoy watching your videos and your channel - Thanks from Denmark 🙏
Great video! I love how you share history.
Another fine video Adam. Thank you for sharing.
I cannot eat Oyster mushrooms without getting sick, while others who ate the same mushroom batch had no ill effects at all.
@Harley Mace I have ate Chicken of the Woods while drinking a lot of beer with no side effects. But, I cooked them for at least 10 minutes to get rid of the hydrazine. Also, where they at the right growth for gathering? It's commonly known that Shaggy Mane mushrooms have a chemical similar to Antabuse and many get sick to the stomach if consumed with any kind of alcohol.
Cook all mushrooms for at least 10 minutes in open air, not breaded, if you want breaded mushrooms then bread them and cook em again after gassing off the hydrazine. K?
@@rjiggy07 It's not Shaggy Manes (coprinus comatus) that can't be consumed with alcohol, but the Common Inky Cap, or "Tippler's Bane" (coprinopsis atramentaria). Shaggys don't contain any disulfiram, which is the compound that reacts with alcohol.
@@willbeez60 Thank you, it's just what I've been told but never researched it. Everything on the net concurs with what you said, but I will take the time to do some old fashion research in my mushroom library.
Thanks again!
Thanks Adam. That was most informative. Still eating them, and as you so correctly stated. In a meal well cooked and not consumed daily. Like anything, moderation is always best. Our bodies need that diversity in our diet. I'm happy to see this subject brought forward and discussed with the facts all made present.
The only way I would eat a wild mushroom is if you were my guide, you are very well versed on the subject and I'm learning a lot
Good job Brother!!! So proud someone from pa is putting out facts on this
Very interesting! The story reminds me of angel wing, which I did eat before seeing your video, and learned people died on Japan, but the toxin was never identified so...
Thank you Adam, love your video(s)
Great info as always!!
have a great day Adam (:
Thank you Adam!
Awesome Video! Thanks. I am always on a lookout for yellow knight each fall, great taste but unfortunately usually full of worms.
If they aren't too loaded with worms, a soak in salt water will chase them out. But, they are more protein (the worms.)
The yellow knight is everywhere in my yard as I have loads of pine trees
when is someone going to make an Adam Haritan fancam???
Another excellent video Adam. Thank you.
Adam- your excellent video reminded me of another mushroom and one that it would be good to see you do a film on because it is also of dubious edibilty (and it's yellow, in part): Agaricus xanthodermus {Yellow-staining mushroom]....it belongs to Agaricus which contains some excellent eating mushrooms and apart from the tell-tale yellow stain when you cut it, it looks very much like a wild field mushroom....it seems some people can eat it with impunity and some have serious ill effects
I'm reminded of gyromitra esculenta.
A mushroom my mother has been eating all her life.
She's pushing 100.
I tell her that they are considered poisonous, she keeps eating them.
Joe
Good Man Adam, Good Post, wonder if poisoning's were ever linked to picking in areas with possible high contaminants. Bioremediation , higher amounts of atmospheric pollutants? The planes have trails some days & not on others. The ending when you talked about informed decision making made me think about Vaccine awareness. Know & Understand what goes into your body, a great idea. Yellow Knight grows well in the South Jersey Pine Barrens , Yummy Yummy...
I had the same thoughts.
These mushrooms are regularly consumed in the mountains of central Portugal and considered a local delicacy. Never heard any stories of poisoning but often the same species will have different chemical content depending on the region it grows so it is always a good idea to go hunting with some of the older residents ; )
All thanks to mycojims on IG for being genuine... You can always get your shrooms, LSD, dmt, chocolate bars and even growing kits....
Great video. Thanks for the information.
So interesting Adam, thank you! I've never found this one, but I'll keep my eyes open for it.
Very cool. But I'm disappointed that you didn't cook it up like you did the Stink Horn.
Great pooling information together
Nice warning
Great video as usual.
Thanks for sharing this info for us. I am surprised they are not collecting specimens in France to check the genetics of the mushrooms there. It is even possible there is a new sub species etc that those people ate. Who knows. Very interesting.
You are what you eat. Eat sunshine, and water, eat local and participate in the cycle. Aloha
I love this info!! Thank you Adam🔥🙏❤love your videos and knowledge!!
Thanks Adam, Love your videos, learn a lot 🙏🙏🙏
Great comprehensive overview for informed decision making. Love your videos. Good luck with the campaign for people not being lazy though. ;)
My grandmother from Lithuania use to pickle them.
I have also picked this mushroom and the grey version for almost 60 years here in New England. My Polish grandparents taught their children, me and my siblings these and a few other. My grandparents grew up in Poland and my grandfather told me of time when this helped them survive (pre and post WWI). We have never had any issue eating them. My grandfather actually liked the yellow type the best. We call them Prośnianki. Unfortunately most of my best locations now have houses on them, and the other places have been devastated by the insect that killed all of the red pine.
It is nice to know that prosnianki is a name known by others. I now live in an area that apparently is not well populated by red or white pines, unless I go 20 - 30 miles or more to state lands that were initially planted by the Civilian Conservation Corps -- CCC -- usually identified by the fact that the trees grow in nice straight rows. Good luck and God bless you in your efforts to find them. I really would like to find more of them as I think they are very, very delicious. Thank you for yor reply and comments.
@@walterwenger931 I have also found them in what I call scrub pine that is in sandy soil. The ones there usually have both grey and yellow coloration combined on the cap. If you have sandy areas, with the crooked pine, and especially around water, dam, pond, lake, you may find them there also.
Thanks, Adam! You're a smart...and cool kid!
Always good info Adam.
I hunted and ate yellow knight my whole life and still alive! One of the best ones - firm and pleasant tasting.
Great video, Adam. Thanks for sharing. Also, I love the new theme music! Who made it?
Really appreciate this.
late comment but this debate reminds me of the angel wing thing. i recognized this mushroom from the video in my mushroom book but its referred to canary trich so thats cool it has many nicknames
Anything in excess can poison: like the recent report in the NE Journal of Medicine of a man in Massachusetts who ate excessive amounts of black licorice over the course of weeks and died.
Gotta do my homework...no matter what I eat....and do...
I don't understand what is meant by excessive amounts. I did not know that there was a limit on the amount of mushrooms one could or should eat, nor did I know that there were improper ways of storing and cooking them. The more I watch your channel, the more nervous I get, and I only eat supermarket mushrooms.
good information to know.
You have left mush room for thought and consideration here.
Oh no you didn't! haha
Boooo!
Thank you, nice video!
my father and i pick these mushrooms all the time, just last week here in new jersey, usa. delicious. we just dont eat them more than 2 or 3 times a week, bc of threat of poisoning. u just gotta make sure not to eat too much. those that die eat A LOT of them
It is certainly among the most delicious mushrooms I have ever eaten. There is this thing called moderation.
well said and very thought provoking
think of the crap we eat everyday
All mushrooms are edible, some you can only eat once.
Thanks Adam, you’re really knowledgeable about the topics you present , very cool.
N. S. S.
thank so much .
Adam, good job!
These are the tricholoma family?
My family has harvested and eaten these for decades and we consider this a real delicacy for pickling in vinegar and seasonings. Always boiled once however.
I like the idea it's mycorrhizal with the trees
I would want to be able to identify the spores under a microscope before I try one. I love mushrooms, and I love to be able to identify them. I collect specimens, take spore prints, look them up in field guides, and take photos. Every now and then I try one that I can positively identify if it is listed as a choice edible. After tasting a field puffball several years ago, I decided that I will only eat choice edible mushrooms unless I am in a survival situation 😅.
There are many mushrooms that I think that I can identify. But it doesn't matter how many utube videos I watch, or how many books I read. I simply am not dying to eat a mushroom.
I added this to watch later,
when I clicked to play,,, I thought it was some cool groovy rhythm I saved.then ... I heard you talking bout myco...
😊 Stay groovy
Hey love your videos! Always very informative. May I ask you to either reply to my comment here or make an exclusive video on more olden field guides that you feel are the best of the best about mushrooms and potential edibility? I want to buy some of the best field guides that have the older wisdom. Such as including mushrooms such as this one that are now considered "inedible". If tons of people eat it without issues for long periods of time a few random issues doesn't make it necessarily unsafe.
Derek Clawson Please watch Adams videos on the identification of poisonous species. There is NO one magic way to identify poisonous mushrooms. Period. You have to do the hard work of positively identifying that exact mushroom. These silver spoon/quarter etc folklores are dangerous old wives tales and will surely kill or sicken you and your friends eventually.
There is no shortcut. Practice identification until you can even accommodate the outliers. The old wisdom is gained over time and by practice.
@@gillywild thanks for the reply! Not sure if you took my question correctly. Only asking if he could recommend some older field guides that are really good in his opinion. Was using the mushroom featured here as an example of how modern guides would say it's inedible when it clearly has a super long track record of edibility. As with many edibles some people tolerate them and some don't. Even ones like hen of the woods. Because a few people can't tolerate it doesn't mean it's not edible to the vast majority who would try it therefore a modern field guide would now say it's inedible when it clearly is edible for 90+% of people. That's why the wisdom of ID it's with 100% confidence, cook it very well, and only try a small bit your first time to determine whether you tolerate it or not. Of coarse any species traditionally known as toxic I have no interest in their edibility. Which being able to ID the toxic ones is paramount obviously either way. Agree with you that one must do their research to proceed as safely as possible. But that's not in the least the essence of my question to him.
@@kdavis4910 agreed but that's not the question I'm asking here. Thanks for your input either way. Of coarse being able to ID mushrooms correctly is paramount. I'm asking for field guide recommendations but obviously I would still need to be able to ID any specimen in question. That's kind of the purpose of the guides...
Hello love your channel I live in North East Pa and find it extremely helpful...I was wondering if there is any wildflower or weeds that grow in November I can look for.
EXCELLENT!!!
Knights, Tricholoma....
Researcher: let's use an extra high dose of extract, to see what happens?
Scientific mind: What?!
How about tricholoma terreum? This also was blamed for the same disease, tho has been eaten for years. I would like to try the T. Terreum under my pine trees but am now concerned
I heart that this "blaming" is mostly down to just one chinese study. The latest statement from the DGFM (German mycological society) about this issue has been that even if you accept the results of this study - which was conducted on mice - to be correct, a human being would have to eat his or her own body-weight or more of terreums to develop the desease.
Thanks
Edibility is controversial but sometimes it's not the only consideration. I've found great blooms of things out of slurry I've thrown out I can't touch because it's under the window of a converso lab. For some reason mushrooms love clan labs possibly because of higher atmospheric phosphene and I'm not sure resulting mushrooms are edible
I've eaten maybe a dozen this season. Early on I picked one but it had more grey than yellow and pitched it because it might have been the T. pardinum which is poisonous. I haven't had any probs. with the bright/light yellow ones but I'm not going to gorge on them either!